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		<title>By: krystal</title>
		<link>http://www.thiswench.com/2009/12/28/and-the-loser-is/comment-page-1/#comment-2694</link>
		<dc:creator>krystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yah...i agree with you. i kind of stay out of the voting thing...and even the try to make friends w/ everyone so i can be nominated thing. it shouldn&#039;t be like how it is being!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yah&#8230;i agree with you. i kind of stay out of the voting thing&#8230;and even the try to make friends w/ everyone so i can be nominated thing. it shouldn&#8217;t be like how it is being!</p>
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		<title>By: Rebekah</title>
		<link>http://www.thiswench.com/2009/12/28/and-the-loser-is/comment-page-1/#comment-2545</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebekah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be a lot more active in the blogging community and since I&#039;ve sort of tapered off in the past 10-12 months, I&#039;ve noticed a change in my readership and that some of the people who used to come by a lot don&#039;t anymore. Some who used to have me on their blogrolls have taken me off, even though I still post FAIRLY regularly. Then I remember that this has all been happening over the course of YEARS, not minutes like it seems, and it makes more sense. Boo, but we all change. I wasn&#039;t popular in high school anyway, so I&#039;m used to this.

I&#039;m one of the guilty who saw the tweets about 20SB nominations and thought &quot;huh, I should do that&quot; and never did. So I am officially not allowed to complain about the lack of diversity in the final nominees. At first I was surprised to see so few names on there, but then I wasn&#039;t actually - cause I could have said something and I didn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be a lot more active in the blogging community and since I&#8217;ve sort of tapered off in the past 10-12 months, I&#8217;ve noticed a change in my readership and that some of the people who used to come by a lot don&#8217;t anymore. Some who used to have me on their blogrolls have taken me off, even though I still post FAIRLY regularly. Then I remember that this has all been happening over the course of YEARS, not minutes like it seems, and it makes more sense. Boo, but we all change. I wasn&#8217;t popular in high school anyway, so I&#8217;m used to this.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m one of the guilty who saw the tweets about 20SB nominations and thought &#8220;huh, I should do that&#8221; and never did. So I am officially not allowed to complain about the lack of diversity in the final nominees. At first I was surprised to see so few names on there, but then I wasn&#8217;t actually &#8211; cause I could have said something and I didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa (20sb admin)</title>
		<link>http://www.thiswench.com/2009/12/28/and-the-loser-is/comment-page-1/#comment-2542</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa (20sb admin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, to Sillyjane and Oats... there is no &quot;most awesome&quot; award, and never has been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, to Sillyjane and Oats&#8230; there is no &#8220;most awesome&#8221; award, and never has been.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyla Roma &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blogger Basics: How to make twenty something bloggers work for you</title>
		<link>http://www.thiswench.com/2009/12/28/and-the-loser-is/comment-page-1/#comment-2541</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyla Roma &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blogger Basics: How to make twenty something bloggers work for you</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#124; Blogger Basics, How To:, Series, do everything elseLately there have been a number of posts (#1, #2, #3) floating around in the twenty something blogger community about the awards and nominations [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] | Blogger Basics, How To:, Series, do everything elseLately there have been a number of posts (#1, #2, #3) floating around in the twenty something blogger community about the awards and nominations [...]</p>
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		<title>By: eQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>eQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw lilu&#039;s tweet regarding this post. I was nominated for best guest blogger, woo-hoo!!!
I have a very very small following compared to some other blogs and I&#039;ve never been featured as a monthly blogger at 20sb, I don&#039;t &quot;run&quot; or &quot;hang&quot; or &quot;friend&quot; any of the popular 20sb people (although their blogs are pretty damn cool) so I was super confused to see my name as a finalist. 

I do however comment fairly often on my followers blogs, I am a semi active 20sb member, and I try to blog consistently. Recognition is always fantastic to recieve, but I certainly don&#039;t blog to get awards. The 20sb awards are really cool and I like the democratic system. My little blog got nominated for crying out loud!!! As fir the &quot;popular&quot; 20sb members gettin more than a few nom&#039;s I think it&#039;s awsome and well deserved. 

Great post, btw!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw lilu&#8217;s tweet regarding this post. I was nominated for best guest blogger, woo-hoo!!!<br />
I have a very very small following compared to some other blogs and I&#8217;ve never been featured as a monthly blogger at 20sb, I don&#8217;t &#8220;run&#8221; or &#8220;hang&#8221; or &#8220;friend&#8221; any of the popular 20sb people (although their blogs are pretty damn cool) so I was super confused to see my name as a finalist. </p>
<p>I do however comment fairly often on my followers blogs, I am a semi active 20sb member, and I try to blog consistently. Recognition is always fantastic to recieve, but I certainly don&#8217;t blog to get awards. The 20sb awards are really cool and I like the democratic system. My little blog got nominated for crying out loud!!! As fir the &#8220;popular&#8221; 20sb members gettin more than a few nom&#8217;s I think it&#8217;s awsome and well deserved. </p>
<p>Great post, btw!</p>
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		<title>By: Princess Pointful</title>
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		<dc:creator>Princess Pointful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former *very* active blogger who was very vested in the community, but got burned out-- this whole post speaks a lot to me. I got really swept up in the blogging world, was nominated for several of these awards in question, and met/got in contact with some seriously amazing people-- including several of the nominees. But somewhere along the way, it got too much-- the hours and hours spent reading other people&#039;s blogs, the guilt when I didn&#039;t have time or missed out on a serious post, the sting of comments dropping spontaneously, people stopping writing in more than 140 characters, people I thought were my real friends stopping being in contact, or my emotionally draining posts feeling ignored. In other words, I forgot the reason I started writing to begin with, and I needed to stop blogging completely to get back to that. 

Now I&#039;m trying again... and this whole drama reminds me of how far we get from writing sometimes. That can be a good thing (look at all the support for Brandy that came about these past few days) or a bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former *very* active blogger who was very vested in the community, but got burned out&#8211; this whole post speaks a lot to me. I got really swept up in the blogging world, was nominated for several of these awards in question, and met/got in contact with some seriously amazing people&#8211; including several of the nominees. But somewhere along the way, it got too much&#8211; the hours and hours spent reading other people&#8217;s blogs, the guilt when I didn&#8217;t have time or missed out on a serious post, the sting of comments dropping spontaneously, people stopping writing in more than 140 characters, people I thought were my real friends stopping being in contact, or my emotionally draining posts feeling ignored. In other words, I forgot the reason I started writing to begin with, and I needed to stop blogging completely to get back to that. </p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m trying again&#8230; and this whole drama reminds me of how far we get from writing sometimes. That can be a good thing (look at all the support for Brandy that came about these past few days) or a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey girl...so everything has been said that I would say on either &quot;side&quot;...but I just want to commend you for staying true to yourself and posting something that might be controversial.  I&#039;m good friends with Lilu and Maxie and love their blogs and them as people, and I always love to see them get recognized.  But I appreciate honest writing and people keeping it real on their blogs.  So anyway, nice to &quot;meet&quot; you. 

Liz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey girl&#8230;so everything has been said that I would say on either &#8220;side&#8221;&#8230;but I just want to commend you for staying true to yourself and posting something that might be controversial.  I&#8217;m good friends with Lilu and Maxie and love their blogs and them as people, and I always love to see them get recognized.  But I appreciate honest writing and people keeping it real on their blogs.  So anyway, nice to &#8220;meet&#8221; you. </p>
<p>Liz</p>
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		<title>By: rini</title>
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		<dc:creator>rini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maxie - Thanks for posting that clarification.  (And thanks for your email too!)

I also want to thank LiLu, Lovely, Jennifer, and Erin for reaching out to me personally as well.

I&#039;ve really appreciated everyone&#039;s who&#039;s been commenting thus far!
At this point I think we all can agree that 20sb has been built up on a bedrock of truly awesome people.  They have poured so much of their heart not only into their own blogs and relationships but also into the making 20sb the amazing place it is now and are continuing to shape into a fricking awesome place.
20sb is still learning and still growing.  Just like we are in our own lives making this transition, so is our community.  We have people doing phenomenal things and there is infinite possibilities laid in store for us for our future.  But we have to be active in the community.  As I mentioned, I myself am guilty of complacency (which is a good part of why I was so shocked to be nominated).  Though it can be intimating, more of us need to step up and be active members of the community.  As MinD has pointed out, yes sometimes it feels that you put so much in but still don&#039;t see the results.  We had a pathetic number of people involved in the nominating process -- and I think seeing that should really inspire us to step up.  I&#039;m still not saying that the nominees didn&#039;t deserve their recognition because they surely do!  They worked hard to be where they are.

I stand by my statement that we need to spend more time, regardless of award time or not, and just recognize those around us who are doing great things, who are great writers, and who are just genuinely great people.  20sb is such an amazing place already -- as Brandy pointed out the love and compassion that can come when you ask for help can be overwhelming -- I can&#039;t wait to see what will happen and what can happen when even more people decide to step up and really own it.

Anyway.  Thanks again for everyone thus far! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maxie &#8211; Thanks for posting that clarification.  (And thanks for your email too!)</p>
<p>I also want to thank LiLu, Lovely, Jennifer, and Erin for reaching out to me personally as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve really appreciated everyone&#8217;s who&#8217;s been commenting thus far!<br />
At this point I think we all can agree that 20sb has been built up on a bedrock of truly awesome people.  They have poured so much of their heart not only into their own blogs and relationships but also into the making 20sb the amazing place it is now and are continuing to shape into a fricking awesome place.<br />
20sb is still learning and still growing.  Just like we are in our own lives making this transition, so is our community.  We have people doing phenomenal things and there is infinite possibilities laid in store for us for our future.  But we have to be active in the community.  As I mentioned, I myself am guilty of complacency (which is a good part of why I was so shocked to be nominated).  Though it can be intimating, more of us need to step up and be active members of the community.  As MinD has pointed out, yes sometimes it feels that you put so much in but still don&#8217;t see the results.  We had a pathetic number of people involved in the nominating process &#8212; and I think seeing that should really inspire us to step up.  I&#8217;m still not saying that the nominees didn&#8217;t deserve their recognition because they surely do!  They worked hard to be where they are.</p>
<p>I stand by my statement that we need to spend more time, regardless of award time or not, and just recognize those around us who are doing great things, who are great writers, and who are just genuinely great people.  20sb is such an amazing place already &#8212; as Brandy pointed out the love and compassion that can come when you ask for help can be overwhelming &#8212; I can&#8217;t wait to see what will happen and what can happen when even more people decide to step up and really own it.</p>
<p>Anyway.  Thanks again for everyone thus far! <img src='http://www.thiswench.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Maxie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maxie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to clarify my above comment for anyone who sees it. I don&#039;t mean my post in a mean spirited way and i&#039;m not directing it at rini-- just anyone who has their doubts I guess.  A view from the other side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to clarify my above comment for anyone who sees it. I don&#8217;t mean my post in a mean spirited way and i&#8217;m not directing it at rini&#8211; just anyone who has their doubts I guess.  A view from the other side.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...uh...hey. I don&#039;t want to really weigh in on the discussion because there are people who are expressing all the points I could come up (from both sides - believe me, this is one of those things where we all need to come together for a better approach in the future) with much better than I care to at the moment. Just want to give a friendly reminder that it&#039;s a little off-putting to see specific names (cough ahem cough cough ahem) brought into the equation in terms of the nominations. This whole scenario is rough enough as is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;uh&#8230;hey. I don&#8217;t want to really weigh in on the discussion because there are people who are expressing all the points I could come up (from both sides &#8211; believe me, this is one of those things where we all need to come together for a better approach in the future) with much better than I care to at the moment. Just want to give a friendly reminder that it&#8217;s a little off-putting to see specific names (cough ahem cough cough ahem) brought into the equation in terms of the nominations. This whole scenario is rough enough as is&#8230;</p>
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